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Just minted myself: "Wow!s" and "how?s" of a newbie.

Dzin
Minted
Posted on Feb 04, '07 at 04:44 pm

Hello!

I’ve just recently minted my site and I must say that Mint did for my stats what iPod did for my music :) Impressed and loving it!

Now a few things.

I’ve installed Mint to http://latforums.lv, forum that uses vBulletin 3.6.4 system (Aria skin) and everything is working together perfectly.

System recognizes Cyrillic (Russian) and special Latvian chars like “ā”,”ž”,”ķ”,”ī”,”ē”, etc. This was a concern for me before the purchase (I think I’ve even contacted someone about this) but it appears that there are no problems here. BTW, this might be something that should be mentioned in FAQ (just in case).

There are few things I’d like to be helped with.

First of all, it seems like Mint doesn’t recognize our local (Latvian and Russian) “search engines” as search engines. It’s not a biggie, but bugs me a bit, since I can’t get a full perspective on my searches (keywords). If you view my referrers ( http://latforums.lv/mint ) sorted by domains, you’ll notice “blogs.yandex.ru” and “smart.delfi.lv” on top. Both these referrers are search engines. Is it possible to set Mint to recognize these and other small local search engines as search engines and track their searches (keywords)?

And the follow-up: is there a pepper that tracks number of visitors coming from each search engine? For example: 20% Yahoo, 50% Google and 30% Others.

I guess this is it for now :)

Thank you for a great product! Looking forward to try different peppers. Hoping for a localization (BTW, I can help with translation into Russian or Latvian if needed). Lots of luck! :)

Andrejs.

Shaun Inman
Mint/Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 05, '07 at 11:11 am

Mint-wide application localization is not planned but you can add local search engines to the engines.php file in /mint/pepper/shauninman/default/ using the following format with http://blogs.yandex.ru/search.xml?text=mint as an example:

$SI_SearchEngines[] = array
(
    'name'          => 'blogs.yandex.ru',
    'url'           => 'http://blogs.yandex.ru/search.xml',
    'domain'        => 'blogs.yandex',
    'query'         => 'text'
);
Dzin
Minted
Posted on Feb 05, '07 at 01:59 pm

Thank you! =^_^=

Dzin
Minted
Posted on Feb 06, '07 at 06:17 pm

actually, it doesn’t work :(

here’s what I’ve added to the engines.php (the first one just like you’ve said):

$SI_SearchEngines[] = array
(
    'name'          => 'blogs.yandex.ru',
    'url'           => 'http://blogs.yandex.ru/search.xml',
    'domain'        => 'blogs.yandex.ru',
    'query'         => 'text'
);
$SI_SearchEngines[] = array
(
    'name'          => 'smart.delfi.lv',
    'url'           => 'http://smart.delfi.lv/i.php',
    'domain'        => 'smart.delfi.lv',
    'query'         => 'q'
);
$SI_SearchEngines[] = array
(
    'name'          => 'apollo.lv',
    'url'           => 'apollo.lv/portal/search/',
    'domain'        => 'apollo.lv',
    'query'         => 'query'
);
$SI_SearchEngines[] = array
(
    'name'          => 'siets.lv',
    'url'           => 'siets.lv/siets.php',
    'domain'        => 'siets.lv',
    'query'         => 'q'
);
$SI_SearchEngines[] = array
(
    'name'          => 'rambler.ru',
    'url'           => 'rambler.ru/srch',
    'domain'        => 'rambler.ru',
    'query'         => 'words'
);
$SI_SearchEngines[] = array
(
    'name'          => 'search.rambler.ru',
    'url'           => 'search.rambler.ru/cgi-bin/rambler_search',
    'domain'        => 'search.rambler.ru',
    'query'         => 'words'
);

I’ve then uploaded the file back, but there are no chages :( And searches from those search engines are not tracking. What might be wrong?

P.S. sorry, for the text formating. I don’t understand how to use ‘Smarty Pants’.

Shaun Inman
Mint/Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 06, '07 at 07:23 pm

Hmm, the last four additions are missing the http:// from their 'url'.

To be clear, this addition isn’t retroactive. It will only affect referrers recorded since the addition of these custom search engines. Could that be it?

Also remember that if you have the “Ignore my visits” cookie set, you won’t be able to test whether it’s working or not. You’ll need to uncheck that Preference first.

In order to get that formatting (no worries) all I had to do was indent each line with a tab (something easily done all at once in a text editor before copy/pasting into the browser textarea).

Dzin
Minted
Posted on Feb 07, '07 at 04:26 am

I’ve added “http://”, but it doesn’t help. I don’t have “Ignore my visits” cookie enabled.

more than that… when I was testing those search engines to find out if Mint tracks searches from it, I’ve noticed that visits from rambler.ru are not tracked. you can see for yourself by searching “Latforums” in http://rambler.ru and clicking the first thing that comes up. you’ll not find this visit in “Most recent Referrers” table. and I think that changes to engines.php has something to do with it, since previous visits from rambler was tracked.

Shaun Inman
Mint/Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 07, '07 at 09:57 am

Are Google search referrers still showing up after modifying engines.php?

Dzin
Minted
Posted on Feb 07, '07 at 10:05 am

yes, Google works fine.

Dzin
Minted
Posted on Feb 07, '07 at 10:11 am

as far as I can see, visits from any other source (other than rambler.ru) are tracked as usual and changes to enigines.php haven’t made any changes.

Dzin
Minted
Posted on Feb 07, '07 at 10:20 am

ok, this is very strange… if I visit forum while looking for POIVY on rambler, my visit gets tracked, but if I visit while looking for latforums or Sekretka it’s not shown anywhere…

Shaun Inman
Mint/Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 07, '07 at 10:22 am

Is it possible that the results for the latter to point to pages that don’t have the Mint JavaScript include attached?

Dzin
Minted
Posted on Feb 07, '07 at 10:37 am

no, all pages within the forum share the same header. besides, I can see visits to these ages from other sources.

Shaun Inman
Mint/Pepper Developer
Posted on Feb 09, '07 at 11:31 am

Ah, the problem was in my example. You need to leave the TLD off the domain in the engines array. Sorry, I should have seen that earlier.

eg.

'domain'        => 'blogs.yandex',

not:

'domain'        => 'blogs.yandex.ru',

I’ve correct the example above and included it again here for clarity (using the search result page http://blogs.yandex.ru/search.xml?text=mint as an example):

$SI_SearchEngines[] = array
(
    'name'          => 'blogs.yandex.ru',
    'url'           => 'http://blogs.yandex.ru/search.xml',
    'domain'        => 'blogs.yandex',
    'query'         => 'text'
);
MikeB
Minted
Posted on Mar 20, '07 at 01:48 pm

Absurdum,

I’m also interested in tracking the breakdown of hits by search engine, and found the solution in this pepper: http://pepper.thrasher7.net/referrerAggregator

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